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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, alex mg <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
> Hello All,
> I'm romanian. My name is Alexandru Marius.
> I'm new at this forum.
> I was very impressed on the discussions that I found
> here.
> Could you indicate me where I can find the
> derivation rules from later latin to romanian?
> In many places you talked about this rules but I
> cannot found the corresponding messages.
> Thanks a lot and Best Regards,
> marius a.
There's a compilation with cross-references to discussions here at
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/richard.wordingham/sounds/prep5d_rom.htm
. For the rules you may find it easiest to 'view source' or
download and examine the sound rules using a text editor, such as
Notepad. However, it may be worth following some of the hyperlinks
on the page.
It's not complete - my notes on omissions follow. Issues raised
after Message 18704 have mostly *not* been recorded in the list
above.
-- Start omission notes--
Evolution of 'baiula' (Cybalist 17527) showed the following
omissions:
Unstressed /j/ did not affricate - cf. Sp. cuyo 'whose'.
Rhotacism /l/ > /r/ is not yet addressed. Yes it is but
environment omits stress flag!
ps > s before stressed vowels (Cybalist 17544).
Sort out intro: > 1ntru (Cybalist 17760 ). May have to ask Miguel!
Don't seem to have implemented Cybalist 18207.
Dropping of intervocalic n Cybalist 18319
bi > ib | V_V Cybalist 18412
n^ > y Cybalist 18412
hospitem > oaspete, not ospete. Why? Cybalist 18582.
Dropping of final -r Cybalist 18557 and account of sora.
Syncopation = batra:nu, genuchi . SeeCybalist 18642.
Stress and yodicisation Cybalist 18594. Also look at 18642 for -
li-.
Looking at 18614 can't handle coniu:rat ! fonta:na also presents
problems.
Need to investigate l^ > y. femeie (18642). Also rule ordering
issues, to get ea > e, not a.
Note, unstressed /a/ rule change Cybalist 25317.
Dropping of intervocalic -b- e.g. Cybalist 18657
-- End omission notes --
I need to separate the rules and the lexicon from the sound change
application better, so that one can more easily make permanent
changes to the rules or lexicon without accidentally changing the
interpretation of the rules. A lot of polishing is needed!
Richard.