Re: Some Albanian-Romanian concordances

From: Peter P
Message: 25666
Date: 2003-09-08

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tolgs001" <george.st@...> wrote:


> I don't know. If it's PIE, then I'd be curious myself
> to learn of other derivatives, aside of Rum. laba and
> Hung. láb.
>
> >In fact the PIE root seems to be in Pokorny the root
> >1172 *le:p flach sein; Hand-, Fußfläche, Schulterblatt,
> >Schaufel, Ruderblatt u. dgl.'
>
> Boy-oh-boy, Hungarians have further words that'd fit
> here: <lap> [lOp] "sheet, card, flat; Blatt." And
> <lapos> [lOpoS] (actually adjectival derivation of
> <lap>) "flat, even." (Hence e.g. the name of the
> province of La~puS, Tzara La~puSului.) A further
> derivation <lapocka> ['lOpotzkO] means "Schulterblatt,
> shoulder blade."
>
> As for "Schaufel," Hung. <lapát> ['lOpa:t]. It can
> 100% be translated as <lopata> into Romanian. But here
> I guess that the path to PIE crosses Slavic realms
> (<lopatka?>).
>
> George

Interestingly;

Finnish lapaluu - shoulder blade
lapio - spade, shovel (doesn't come from Baltic)
lapa - flat (part of instrument, blade, oar) wide flat head
N Vogul - katlop, handwidth (kat, hand)

Peter P