Re: [tied] Re: holly elements

From: alex
Message: 25350
Date: 2003-08-26

Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
> Dear Alex,
> I think that PIE root *dei- 'to shine, day, God' (see Pokorny *dei-)
> derives in Albanian words: <di> 'to know' (*ei >i),
> <dije> 'knowledge', <dijetar> 'scholar', <dinak> 'cunning,
> <dituri> 'learning' and <ditë> 'day' (*dei-ta:-). Prefixed form
> <gdhij> 'to wake up, to rise', <gdhihem> 'to dawn up' and, that's
> important here, <diell> 'sun' (*dei-el, cf. *sw-el 'sol' and, with
> variant suffix -en, *sw-en 'sun', probably the root of Albanian
> hyll/yll 'star', if we have to deal with s-mobile), besides feminine
> form Diella and diminutive Dilë. So, to my opinion, the supreme God
> of Proto-Albanians was Sun. This is the reason why _Dielli
> perëndon_ "The sun is reigning", was translated correctly into Greek
> as "Ho Helios basileuei" (in P. Budi's "Dictionary…" – 1635 - the
> verb <perëndon> has only the meaning `to reign').
> Furthermore, according to Hans A. Pohlsander and Suny Albany "When
> Diocletian and Maximian announced their retirement in 305, the
> problem posed by the Christians was unresolved and the persecution in
> progress. Upon coming to power Constantine unilaterally ended all
> persecution in his territories, even providing for restitution. His
> personal devotions, however, he offered first to Mars and then
> increasingly to Apollo, reverenced as Sol Invictus."
> I am aware too that E. Hamp and P. Gasiarowski have different
> opinions about etymology of the Alb. word <diell> `sun', trying to
> explain it from PIE *sw-el-, but it is my opinion and my attempt to
> explain this word.
>
> Konushevci


Dear Abdullah,
thank you for these information but my question was of another nature.
To rebuild it. Does Albanians today keep some of the following elements
for "holly" calling them The Saint Earth, the Saint Water or such ?
earth, stars, sun, sea,moon, water, fire

Alex