Re: [tied] Animate Dual in -h3 (was: IE Roots)

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:25:21 +0000, Glen Gordon <glengordon01@...>
wrote:

>Miguel:
>>Why should *t have been interpreted as *txw? It isn't in *r.k^tós "bear" >
>>Kartv. *das^tw.
>
>Now how can I talk to you seriously when you cite a non-
>existent stem? Due to the Hittite cognate, the stem is
>actually *xrtgos (or *h2r.tg^os, for those who follow
>traditional notation).

If you want to talk seriously, get your facts straight. The Hittite
cognate is hartagga-, therefore /hartka-/ with /k/, not /g/. The
Kartvelian form was borrowed from a metathesized and already post-laryngeal
form *r.k^tos (> e.g. Greek arktos).

>Miguel displays more dyslogic:
>>Not necessarily. IE *k^t is always borrowed as *s^t in Kartvelian.

>Yes, necessarily! IE *k^ is _plain_, not palatal. It was only
>palatalized in satem dialects, quickly becoming a sibilant. This
>is proven by markedness issues that plague the old concept of
>IE phonology and this has been discussed many times before.

Why should Proto-Kartvelian speakers have had considerations for markedness
issues in PIE phonology? The allophone of /k/ before /t/ is necessarily
front, nothing to do with satem.

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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