Re: [tied] Enclosed Places (was: The unexplained link between Greek

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

> 12-07-03 22:57, alex wrote:
>
> > I guess here for this word is not important the metathesis in

Slavic.

> > Here is something else important Piotr. The /a/>/o/ in

Slavic.Neither

> > Albanian nor Romanian has the /o/ there but simply /a/. If this

should

> > be a Slavic loan, then you have to sustain the change /a/>/o/ in

Slavic

> > is a very recent thing, meaning somewhere in the X century. Is

this

> > change /a/>/o/ so late or is this soundshift somehow early to be

dated?

>
> In earliest Slavic the pronunciation of what we _spell_ *o was

close to

> [a] (this was in fact the original Balto-Slavic value of the

vowel). I

> wrote about that at length explaining liquid metathesis and the
> etymology of <daltë> (check the archive if you don't remember the
> details). The change of [a] > [o] is not as recent as you suggest,

but

> it probably swept through Slavic about AD 800 (only a very rough

dating

> can be suggested) as part of a more general qualitative "vowel

shift".

> If *[dalta] was borrowed as <daltë>/<daltã>, there's nothing

irregular

> about *[gardU] --> <gardh>/<gard>.
>
> Piotr

************
As I have mentioned before, if the Alb. <daltë> 'chisel' will be
borrowed from the Slavic *dalta, the cluster /-lt-/ should be
assimilated in /-ll-/.
I know that Slavic linguists like to drink too much on the expenses
of Albanian and Romanian language, but, what's enough is enough.

Yours,
Konushevci