[tied] Re: cutulare

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" wrote:

>> Italian "scuotere" is to be related to Latin "excutere" `to shake`
>> composed from "ex-" and "quatere" (related with "quatio"). The form
>> involved in Southern Italian "(s)cutulare", Sardinian "iscutullare"
>> and Romanian "scutura(re)" is the VL version "*excutulare" of the
>> same verb you will find in your dictionary at "excutio".
>
> For your argumentation you have this:
>
> a scoate = to pull out Cf DEX < Latin *excotere (from "excutere")

So?!

> Now, "a scoate" (to pull out) is not " a scutura" (to shake)

Of course not, they're just related through the original Latin
"excutere" `to shake` gaving birth to two specialized VL words
mentioned above. So?

> and I am afraid none of them has something with Latin "inheritance"
> to do

I'm affraid you have nothing to do either with etymologies or with
correct understanding of written phrases.

> as well as "scurt" (short)( cf. DEX > Latin *exxcurtus)

I bet the (Vulgar) Latin word is "*excurtus".

> has nothing to do with Latin "curtus" on a inherited line.

No, just "*excurtus" is a composed form from "ex-" and "curtus".

> Second, where are all these forms to find at all?

In the dictionary. Of course, for finding them it's useful to
read them correctly first.

> In medieval Latin or where?

There is no Medieval Latin involved in Romanian words.

> The word "quatere" is not to find too in my etym. dict.

How many times does one have to tell you that in the dictionary
you will find Latin verbs with the I-st person entry: "quatio:"?!
After that you should see something like "quatere - quassus". In
Elementary Lewis: "quatio: --, quassus, ere, to shake".

> and if it would be it will be related to "quater"=the fourth,

?

> but not to "quatio:"

So, according to your infinite wisdom, the infinitive form cannot
be related with the I-st person of the present tense?!

> I don't guess one will can begin anything with a root in
> latin as "quat-", maybe an "quatt-" n asymilation of "quatr-".

That's pure nonsense.

Nice dreams,
Marius Iacomi