Satem Yet Yet Again (was: Re: about the wrong roots)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

> Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
>
> > It's not a labiovelar, it's a "palatovelar" *k^ followed by *w.
> > Alb. kudër cannot be derived from *k^won-. Perhaps it belongs to

the

> > group of Grk. skulax, Ir. cuile:n, Lith. kale: "puppy, bitch"
> > (*skeu-l-, *skeu-n-?).
>
> > =======================
> > Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> > mcv@...
>
> How is in fact seen the change *k^> s ? Which are the intermediar

steps?

> Which should be the intermediary sounds which allowed the /k^/(
> pronounced how ?) to became /s/? I can just trace the change I know

c >

> c^i > s^ and just when followed by /e/ or /i/ for allowing /c/>/c^/.
> Or this /k^/ due its palatal position have had something like a

small

> /i/ there?

[k] > [k^] > [tS] and then probably [S] > [s], but other trajectories
are possible. The remarkable think aboutthis sound change is that it
does not appear to have been conditioned to any significant effect.
There's a brief discussion of the inital state of affairs at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/9491 . There are a
few environments, however, which appear to have _prevented_ this
change. These factors vary from group to group.

A very good discussion starts at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/4963 , but beware of
flogging dead horses!

Richard.