[tied] Re: Creole Romance? [was: Thracian , summing up]

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:26:33 +0000, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...>
> wrote:
>
> >--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...>

wrote:

> >> On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:28:25 +0000, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Basically, you have the same situation everywhere in the Roman
> >empire
> >> >as in the British or French: after initial confusion the elite
> >learns
> >> >proper Latin (English, French), which then percolates down. The
> >> >question is when this process was stopped
> >>
> >> It stopped when everybody spoke Latin as their native tongue.
> >>
> >>
> >Real, proper Latin? What do you base that on (remember you
> >said 'everybody')?
>
> If everybody speaks it, that makes it _real_ Latin. With a Gaulish

or

> Iberian accent perhaps, and with a word or two from the substrate,

but real

> Latin nevertheless.
>

The question was how do you know that _everybody_ spoke 'real, proper
Latin' (thus no one spoke broke creole type Latin) at some given time
in the Roman colonies. You didn't answer that.

Torsten