Re: [tied] Elbow, forearm

23-06-03 14:46, Richard Wordingham wrote:

> Thank you for the details of the VlVn and VlVk forms. I must say the
> Indo-Iranian makes me think of *h2ar- 'fit' (is there another
> laryngeal here, e.g. *h2arh1?) as in Greek arthron 'joint'.

I also think so.

> Does Brugmann's law apply to *o < *h3e?

Some have claimed it doesn't, but I see no reason why it shouldn't.

> Miguel's derivation (roughly late
> *h1oh3len- & ablaut variations) also rules out the Indo-Iranian forms.

In this and similar cases (e.g. *o:k^u- 'swift') I must admit I'm torn
between a purely laryngeal solution (such as Miguel's) and underlying
length -- .e., *h3o:le:n (if gramatically "animate") rather than
*h1oh3le:n . The latter certainly works phonologically, but seems to
presuppose something morphologically cumbersome like *h1oh3-l-(e)n-. I
don't think the last word has been said about those unexpected long *o:'s

Piotr