[tied] some terms for George ( it was Re: Historical ...)

From: altamix
Message: 23625
Date: 2003-06-19

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Darie <elixir032000@...> wrote:
>the first vowel was dropped? In Romanian there is also an
expression 'a ajuns la haram', whose origin is lost, but which means
that a person lost everything, is on the edge and is leaving on
public charity 'pomana'.


haram: gratis, gift,

"De haram i-am avut de haram s-au dus".
haram cf DEX:

1) a very thin cow, almost dead
2) plunder
3) abandoned place

Expresions:
"de haram"= gratis, free of charge
haramul haram se face " thing got without work get easy lost"
"haram cã"= such a pitty that... (pãcat cã)
"haram de el"= "vai de el"= "poor him"

Etym. given by DEX:
from turkish "haram"= illicit, prohibitive

Haram etymologie....