Re: [tied] Re: Indo-Iranian

From: Lisa Darie
Message: 23470
Date: 2003-06-18

 
 
These are the Romanian literary words:
Rmn. acest, aceasta (�st,asta, ast�)
          acel, acela
 
Romanian has also some rustic dialectal forms as:
 
iste, ista, iasta = Latin iste, ista = Cast. este, esta
aiste, aista, aiasta, aistia, aiestea
cesta, ceasta, a^sta, asta, astia, astea
cel, cela => French ce, cella
al, ala, aia, alea (sorry I don't have Romanian fonts), like ast, asta
 
Cat. aquest - Rmn. acest - the same words different spelling ->
       aquesta -        acesta -   
- the same words / different spelling /  now different pronunciation
- was the earlier pronunciation the same or different? which one?    
- has the Cat. an older pronunciation as in the case of names as Chilichia (Kilikia) vs. Cilicia, Trakia vs. Tracia?
 
Certainly, Romanian is a Romance language. It is interesting that, in some instances, Romanian conserves in parallel both, the Romanian and the Latin form, as well as other forms that are characteristic to some Romance languages.  
 
Regards,
 
Lisa
Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:32:32 +0200, alex <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

>BTW how you would derive the demonstrative pronoun from Latin ?

        Cast.             Cat.                Rom.
"this"  este, esta        aquest, aquesta     acest, aceast� (�st, ast�)
"that"  aquel, aquella    aquell, aquella     acel, acea

Clearly, these forms are derived from a common prototype, which is
obviously Latin: iste, ista "this", ille, illa "that", reinforced with the
deictic particle *accu- (in French ecce-, in Occitan and Rhaetic both ecce-
and *accu-).


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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
mcv@...


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