Re: [tied] "One" in Albanian [Was: some terms for George]

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 23443
Date: 2003-06-17

On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:58:16 +0200, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

>17-06-03 22:36, alex wrote:
>
>> I guess the explanation is very simple. Albanian lost the initial "u"
>> from *une ( Take a look at how many words begin with "un-" in Albanian.
>> The derivation should be as follow:
>>
>> *oino > une > né > nie > nje > një
>
>Despite your pretension to simplicity, this derivation is actually so
>complex that one can legitimately call it crazy. It violates a great
>number of regular developments in the history of Albanian, and every
>single step in your sequence is arbitrary:
>
>(1) *oi does not yield (Proto-)Albanian *u; it gives e (< *e: < *ai <
>*oi); before a nasal *e: would have become a nasalised vowel (*â = [a~])
>in Common Albanian.
>
>(2) Stem-final ("thematic") short *o disappears in Albanian. Short *o
>doesn't change into /e/ except under some special umlauting conditions
>that don't obtain in this case.
>
>(3) *oino- did not have final stress.
>
>(4) You leave dialectal forms totally unaccounted for.
>
>In a word, bullshit.


Still, there's definitely a Monty Python sketch lurking somewhere in
this...

Ladies and gentlemen! In the blue corner, just back from a tour through the
OPEC countries, weighing 16 tons, Eric "the Half-a-Bee" Hamp! And in the
red corner: last summer's winner of the Summarizing Proust competition,
Alex "What have the Romans ever done for us" Moeller, with the Knights who
say Një...


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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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