--- m_iacomi <
m_iacomi@...> wrote:
> >> The word shows [...] that Romanians got
> Christianized early and
> >> naturally, at the base level of uneducated people
> who accept a
> >> fate they feel appropriated to their spirit.
> >
> > GK: If so, they would have had the "ecclesia"
> > word in the other sense mentioned above.
[congregatio fidelium GK)
>
> (MI) They might have had it if that Latin adopted
Greek
> word would
> have had a clear reason to be preserved.
*****GK: That word (or some other word reflecting the
same concept) is quite essential to any kind of
genuine Christianity, even (perhaps especially) one
independent of the controlling presence of a
priesthood. I am wrestling with two hypotheses
concerning the PR :(a) they were a population which
contacted with Christianized elements and borrowed a
number of terms from them which were retained in the
vocabulary, but were not themselves Christians; (b)
they were a population which experienced an early form
of Christianization (Latin version) but subsequently,
through a variety of historical pressures, became
"deChristianized" except for the survival of some
words from the earlier vocabulary. In both cases the
genuine (permanent cgs) Christianization of the PR /R
would have occurred more or less simultaneously with
that of their Slavic neighbours, in the context of the
Bulgarian Empire. OK., putting this aside until
further verification, let's look at some other
"essential" or "important" Christian words one would
expect to find. But even before doing this, a follow
up question on "ecclesia" as congr.fid.== Did the
Romanian ecclesiastical vocabulary adopt the Slavic
"tserkov" "tserkva" (or variants). This is the Slavic
equivalent of "ecclesia" (in all senses {though there
are prob. other words in use in some languages like
"kosciol" in Polish). The basic Slavic term is a
borrowing from Germanic, I think, since the earliest
missionaries to the Moravians were German clerics.
Anyway, does Romanian have "tserkov" et sim.?*******
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