Re: Chorenatsi (was: [tied] Oguzname [Re: Klaproth])

--- alex <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
Assuming the

> existence of the
> transdanubian possesion of the Bulgarians, we agree
> there should have
> been a strongly slavic christianity.

*****GK: Slavic Bulgarian Christianity did not "take
off" until ca. 893 (the date usually accepted for the
introduction of "cyrillic" writing in the country. The
Methodians who arrived in 886 wrote yet in
"glagolitic"). Bulgaria lost its transdanubian lands
in the period 894ss. Not enough time to implant SC in
the future Romania. There could have been some
Moravian influence for a few years (in the latter
Transylvania), but that would have been in the
"glagolitic" tradition, and is in any case quite
uncertain. South of the Danube, however, it was a
different story.******

The events of

> Pecenenegs and Magyar
> should have maybe cutted it but never changed it to
> what it is today. In
> fact all these do not fit because there are just
> erronate assumptions
> which cannot fit together.If one gives no penny on
> the epic story from
> Oguzname, one should wonder wbout the "unknown
> country called Balak
> which is situated north of the country of Bulgars".
> This description is
> the one given in Geographia of armenian Moses
> Chorenatsi and was written
> in the second half of the IX century. I won't speak
> here about "missing
> evidences" but I will speak here about "evidences
> which does not fit a
> certain assumption". To sume up about "missing
> evidences":
>
> - Geografia of Chorenatsi ( begining with 850)

*****GK: We could look at this. Do you have the
text?*****

> - Map of Klaproth ( map of year 912)

*****GK: There's nothing to this.*****

> - Chronicle of Nestor
> - Gesta Hungarorum

*****GK: The Gesta reflect (at best) some notions
current in ca.1200. Some of it is a garbled rehash of
'Nestor'. Scratch.*****

> ��
> I know you have your opinion about Chronicle of
> Nestor where you like to
> see a projection of events which happened in the
> time of Romans with the
> events wich occur with comming of Hungarians ( I
> wondered which is the
> role of the Slavs in that region in the time as the
> Romans conquered it)
> but the chronicle of Nestor is not standing alone
> there as you see.
>
> Alex
>
>

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