Re: [tied] The "lost" Slavic homeland

--- alex <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

> george knysh wrote:
>
> > The huge expansion of
> > Slavdom which began in the later 5th c. was due
> > neither to Goths nor to Huns. We talk about
> migration,
> > but perhaps the just mentioned "expansion" is a
> better
> > word, since Slavs continued to hold the areas
> whence
> > they "expanded".
>
> (Alex)Beside the Romania and Albania.

GK: I don't understand this comment Alex. Are you
saying that Romania and Albania were part of the Slav
homeland? If not, what do you mean?*****

>
> > Perhaps a similar scenario would work
> > for the Romanians, viz., expansion rather than
> > "migration" (except for those actually involved in
> the
> > move). BTW Mommsen has been quite superseded by a
> host
> > of 20th c. investigators.
>
> (Alex) it wont work because of the slavs. We expect

in

> North of Danube as the
> first valahian states have been created, the Slavic
> element. And not in
> the upper clas as knez and prister but in the lower
> class of simply
> peasants, being numerous enough for playing the same
> role as the
> valahians played in south of Danuber, in both
> countries Serbia and
> Bulgaria. Such mentions are not to find.

******GK: I think you have misunderstood me here. I am
not looking for your kind of analogies. And BTW I
wouldn't overwork the "lower class Romanian" idea.
Every social structure no matter how humble (in other
peoples' eyes) has its rulers and ruled, its
"aristocracy" if you will. I would simply not accept
the notion that the Vlachs did not have something of
this kind. But back to the main point. What I wished
to suggest to you is that just as the Slavic
"expansion" did not necessarily imply abandonment of
areas earlier occupied, but the acquisition of new
areas for an excess population, so might one examine
the possibility that a similar situation existed for
the Romanians. "Expansion" north of the Danube might
not necessarily mean abandonment of areas earlier
occupied. This could be checked out.*****



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