>Something tells me there is a grain of truth in Dobrev's
>theory
There is something to it of course: actually no surprise, since
IE-languages speaking peoples, incl. of the Iranid kind, had
lived for many centuries in the vicinity of Altaic and Uralic
languages speaking peoples. And such tribes were subjugated
or included in subsequent kaganates where (more or less)
Turks had the upper hand. Besides, the Turkic idioms speaking
ones were influenced by Persia too.
I for one don't speak either Turkish, or Farsi, but the
hierarchy titles once Mr Karloukovski posted apud Mr Dobrev
in the Usenet sound rather Turkic to me (kanasubigi, kanartikin,
itchirgu etc.) I mean the... "Sprachmelodie" and the rhythm.
So that why wasn't possible to a certain Turkish dialect (say
Old Bulgarian) to have been stuffed with Iranid (or Iranian or
Persian) loanwords, much as are many modern languages full of
English loanwords in certain areas of activity (e.g. in
"computerese")?
But I'd expect genuine specialists to make their conclusions
on comparing those words with, say, Kurdish, Ossetian, Tadjik
and Farsi vocabularies (and ancient versions thereof)...
In the "bagatur bagain" title, isn't "bagatur" rather a Turkic-
Mongolian (and Hungarian) term? bahadur or bator ("brave").
>which can finally lead us to a clearer answer on the origin
>of my people.
The origin of the modern Bulgarian people isn't reductible --
in a manner... "aut Caesar, aut nihil, tertium non datur" :-)
-- to those Old Bulghars (be them Turks or Yazygs). Bulgarians
include whole lotta Slavs as well as... Bulgarized Romanians
(former Romanian speakers in the North and former Aromanian
speakers in the South).
BTW 1: Didn't gargara enter the language rather from Greek?
BTW 2: I am skeptical of the assertion that the former commie
regime was fond of the filo-Turkic theory pertaining to the
"buiela butaul" texts -- at least in the 1980s, when the regime in
Sofia was so anti-Turkish. So much so that they prompted an
exodus of Bulgarian Turks to Turkey. (I remember, then there
was much mass-media fuss about those events.)
>Eva
George