Re: [tied] Suffix "-ean"

From: alex
Message: 22865
Date: 2003-06-08

m_iacomi wrote:
> In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tolgs001" wrote:
>
>>> The second argument why rom "ean" is not from Latin
>>> (even if has the same function as the latin suffix)
>>> is as people showed here, the words which ends in "-ân"
>>> as in rumân, stãpân, jupân.
>>
>> It is, after all, a PIE suffix. But AFAIK -ean is rather
>> influenced by some Slavic pattern.
>
> Since Latin stressed /a/ preceding /n/ regularly evolves in
> /â/ in Romanian, the stressed suffix "-ean" cannot continuate
> a Latin "-anus". Both meaning and phonology point out towards
> Slavic "-jan(-inU)" > Rom. "-ean(u)", possibly through plural
> analogical derivation ("-En-ino-" > "-eni").
>
> Regards,
> Marius Iacomi


You are right in qoting the usualy explanation. The Rom. Suffix "-eanu"
is seen as Slavic loan.
Just a question. How can it happens none of the linguists took a look at
the Dacian names where all of them ends in "-enses"?
As a matter of fact, the plural form fits with no ghange in this suffix
( does the slavic one do the same?)
Sg / Pl
Moldovean - Moldoveni
Osean - Oseni
RãcaTean - RãcãTeni
RegãTean - RegãTeni

And do not forget that this suffix shows the appartenence to a place .
The slavic suffix shows something else so far I remember.

alex