Re: [tied] Re: PIE & Sanskrit Vowel Counts (was: Nominative: A hybr

On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 12:34:15 +0000, Richard Wordingham
<richard.wordingham@...> wrote:

>--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 11:05:14 +0000, Glen Gordon <glengordon01@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >>This leaves:
>> >>
>> >>stressed *&' (*^&', *"&') *á: *^é: *"ó: (*-í *-ú)
>> >>unstressed *& (*^&, *"&) *a
>> >>svarita *a: *^e: *"o:
>> >
>> >Erh, why is *i and *u parenthesized?
>>
>> They only occurred in the Auslaut.
>>
>> >This is a typologically unbalanced system without them.
>>
>> No it isn't.
>>
>> e: o:
>> &
>> a:
>>
>> is perfectly alright.
>
>Is this a Caucasian system?

I was thinking of proto-Tocharian (although that does have marginal i: and
u:, from PIE *ih1 and *uh1 [*ih2/ih3 > *yV:, *uh2/-uh3 > *wV:]).

>> I didn't include PIE *a in my summary, which was an omission.
>> At the stage above, we also had the marginal phoneme *á/*a in the
>> neighbourhood of *k, *g, *gh, *h2 (a variant of *&/*é), and *á~: ~
>> *á~ in the neighbourhood of nasals (a variant of *ó(:)).
>
>Phoneme or allophone?

Allophone first, phoneme later, I suspect.


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