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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...>
wrote:
>
> Erh, I don't say [not]. I say [nAt] with back unrounded [A].
> And I say [&gEIn], or [&ge:n] when I'm lazy and 've
> spoken too much French that day :)
>
>
> - gLeN
Oh, sorry. All that I can tell by ear is that your "o" is
back and rounded, so I assumed it to be the open back rounded
vowel which, in accordance with my suggestion, I represented
simply as /o/, the more closed vowel being but an allophone
of the same, that occurs before /w/. Or at least that's my
question for Piotr, he's the expert on English, I only speak
it. However I think [&gEIn] represents the same thing as my
/&gejn/, that being the point. There is, I think, no reason
to write both /E/ and /e/, in North American English, or at
least in my dialect of it, since the more closed one is but
an allophone that occurs before /j/. However I would like to
hear what Piotr has to say before I commit too strongly to it.
David