Re: Nominative: A hybrid view

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...>
wrote:

>
> Miguel:
> >In Spanish, all voiced fricatives have merged with the voiceless

ones

>

>[Glen:]
> And I'm not rejecting the possibility of it at all...

Oh, no? Fine, then we got that far. Then let us forget that it used
to provoke some very strong language on your part telling me I
belonged in a loony-bin for even considering such a thing.

> but it still is overly
> assumptive for IE until someone can properly prove that we can't do
> without a distinct phoneme **z.

That is exactly what I believe the facts force us to accept. If we
do not accept an earlier distinction in the order of /s/ : /z/ we
get into insurmountable problems which disappear if we do accept
that distinction for the prestage of PIE in which the "thematic
vowel" took a differentiated turn depending on the presence or
absence of voice in the following segment.

Jens