Re: Ukrainian words from Carpathians

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex_tiscali_dsl" <alxmoeller@...>
wrote:

> Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
> > > As far as I remember, there are also place name Beskides and
> > there are all chances to be explained only through Alb.

appellative

> > bjeshkë 'summer mountain pasture'
> >
> > Yes, several mountain ranges in southern Poland are called

Beskid

> > or (pl.) Beskidy (< *beskydU < **besku:do-, with loss of
> > palatalisation that looks as if it were due to

Czech/Slovak/Ukrainian

> > influence). The word is genuinely old and the Albanian connection

may

> > be real. Like the name of the Carpathians 'the Rockies' (cf. Alb.
> > karpë), which is well over 2000 years old, it may be a surviving
> > substrate word
> >
> > Piotr
>
>
> Leting the root somewhere in the dark, let see how and which

languages

> made from the root +"ati" or "atians" the name which we today know.

Is

> this Greek or Latin or neither one nor another one? And would you

mind

> there is no connection between the actual name and the ancient name

as

> Riphees Mountains ?

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-at is Alb. plural of names in feminine gender: fushat, vashat,
çikat, etc., -iens or -ians is suffix denoting the inhabitants of
some place. <Karpë> 'cliff, craggy rock', pl. 'karpat' is just a
metathetic form of todays prefixed form <sh-krep> 'crag, rough rock',
pl. <shkrepat> 'id'. So, we may deduce that krap <krap is primitive
singular of <sh-krep>, which is singularized plural.

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