Re: [tied] Ukrainian words from Carpathians

From: alex_lycos
Message: 21906
Date: 2003-05-15

m_iacomi wrote:
> Some of them seem to be loanwords from Romanian substrate words
> (most probably Dacian): "vatrã", "Tap", "brânzã". "Barda" is most
> probably a common loanword from Hungarian (also in Romanian),
> "kiptar" is by all means Romanian ("pectus" > "piept" deriving
> "pieptar" > "k'eptar" in Northern Dacoromanian), "colibã" exists
> in Romanian and Bulgarian too, could not be substrate for Rom
> since one has preserved intervocalic /l/, might be Slavic. "Tarânã"
> should be inherited in Romanian as derived from Latin "terra"
> "gazda" is probably from Hungarian "gazda" (as well as in Rom.)
> "vârcolac" is Slavic loanword in Romanian (Bulg. "vãrkolak"), might
> have Romanian phonetism also in Ukrainian. "palanka" (also Rom.)
> should be another loanword from Hungarian "palánk". "Mãmãligã" is
> the Romanian national food, might be some derivative from "mama",
> it was borrowed also by other people. "Plai" is a Romanian word
> coming supposedly from Greek "plagion". For "koshara" one could
> see the Romanian suffix "-ar" attached to a Slavic loan word
> For "beskyd" I have no suggestion. What does that mean?!
>
> Regards,
> Marius Iacomi

"coliba" is present in Greek and in Thracian too, the rothacism is
nonsense as argumentum since /l/ and /r/ was even in latin
interchangeable.Varkolak is not a slavic word I guess. I ask here if
this has something to do with "wulkos"= wolf.
beskyd= "veSted" eventually ( faded)?