Re: [tied] Re: tall as an palm

tolgs001 wrote:

>> Even with the loosing of the intervocalic "b"
>> I don'T see how to get an /o/ in Rom. from /ui/
>> cubitus > cuitus > cuitu >?
>
> Especially for Romanian native speakers it
> is forever difficult - in many circumstances -
> to make distinction betw. [o] and [u]. I even
> could give you the name of a radio anchorman
> who, much as he tries to have an appropriate
> diction, he never manages to pronounce
> [ro-mI-ni-ya], but [ru-mI-ni-ya]. Etc. Last
> but not least, such concomittant occurrences
> as "mort, moarte" vs. "murit, muritor";
> "ploton/ier", "pluton/ier"; "coloare" (standard
> Romanian up to Apr 1, 1954), "culoare" (after-
> wards) etc. are possible for this reason
> (And this is not only restricted to Romanian,
> but also to other languages, inter alia...
> Persian and Hungarian. After all [u] and [o]
> are possible due to anatomic efforts that are
> almost the same for the utterance apparatus.)
>
> George

this shows nothing.
there is a hard distinction in dyphtongs , that is clear , it is hard to
distingue /ua/ from /oa/ and /ia/ from /ea/.
But there is no difficulty for distinguish /o/ from /u/:-)

all of these will do not help to derive "cot" from "kubitus" trough an
"kut" since "u" remains "u" . the fact that "u" is supposed to become
"i" after palatal consonant doesn't help to get an "o" of it.