>interesting these onopatopoes.
>Germanic "kleffen"
kläffen (with Umlaut-a)
>is not given as onomatopoe, but
>Romanian "clefãi" is given as an onomatopoe.
They differ though to a great extent: the former means
to bark, whereas the latter means to munch noisily,
as a greedy dog or hog. And kläffen along with klaffen
are seen as < Germanic *klap- "open-mouthed".
(In modern German, the mouth is also called "die
Klappe" -> "halt die Klappe!" = "shut up!".)
>The same derivation we have in german "hocken" and
>Rom. >"cocoSa".
Rather in "Hoecker" < Germanic *hugga-, having the
same meaning. OTOH, my German dictionary says that
"hocken" & "hoch" (= high) < IE *koug-, *kug. Well, if
Romanian "gogoa$a" and other related words can be
reduced to a "gog-/gug-" meaning some sort of ball
or pellet, then it might have the same root.
But note that this word + the participle "coco$at"
(hunchback) aren't equally spread in all subdialects: in
several regions people will say "gheb" and "ghebos"
(see etym. of Engl. gibbous) and never "cocoa$a" &
"coco$at". ("cocoa$ã" anyway sounds as though it
were a feminine form of "coco$" = rooster :).
>I don'T know if I can derive the wellknown "cãciulã" (fur cap)
>as a compound of "like the tuft" (ca= like + ciu ( from *keu )
>+ old suffix -la" ca+ciu+la
Only if you can analyse it the same way in the Albanian
variant ke:shulle:.
>You see, there are a lot of related thingies to germanic.
Of course, since all these are IE languages. But there
isn't any examples of which linguists can say "well,
this & that is an old Germanic word, because a,b,c,d..."
>And because the thread begun with "cardinal points"
>and the romanian "rãsãrit") it ought to remember here
>beside what I said in the first message as follow:
>old Islandic= reisen = to raise ( a urca)
>Lithuanian = rytas ( morning, sunrise)
But these are whimsical trials, based on phonetic
coincidences. (Whose are these ponderings? I'm sure
not yours, esp. ana-nojan & reisen.)
>The Latin form *resalire is just a joke even if theoretycally
>possible.
"re-salire" doesn't have any asterisk attached to it. OTOH,
re-see the connotation of the prefix rãs-/rãz- (from Slavic)
in Romanian. Only after seriously dealt with these two
possibilities would I venture to make research in Ruritania. :))
>Rom. called *remânca which is absolutely nonsense.
Well, nonsense because humans - unlike some other
primates - usually do not eat again the food that they
once ate and then vomited or defecated. Whereas the
sun will re-rise again and again - astrophysicists say for
another 5 to 7 billion years from now on.
>These reconstructions just because of only one language
>are very dangerous I guess..
Dangerous? Why dangerous?
George