[tied] Re: Got to thinkin' about word order

From: Daniel J. Milton
Message: 21460
Date: 2003-05-02

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
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> Subject: [tied] Re: Got to thinkin' about word order
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> > I suppose an IE list should concern itself less with Uralic, so
let me try to tie Uralic to PIE and ask about Sanskrit 'ajati' he
drives, Latin 'ago/agere' to urge, drive, plead. FU *aj to drive,
lead, chase, Finn. 'ajaa' he drives. It looks as if the FU and PIE
roots are cognates. Are there any opinions whether this word goes
further back than PIE or was it borrowed into FU?
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> PFU *aja- is regarded as a loan from Proto-Indo-Iranian or Proto-
Iranian. If it were older than that, we would expect the initial *h2
of PIE *h2ag^- to show a non-zero reflex in FU. PFU *j for PIIr. *
[dz'] < *g^ represents the regular pattern of substitution between
those languages.
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> Piotr
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Forty or fifty years ago, there was an article in some linguistic
journal on worldwide roots pointing to a primitive language. Rather
surprising, since the idea then was outrageously unprofessional
rather than simply highly dubious as it is these days.
All I remember is a root with a meaning something like "forcible
forward motion" --'ag-'. It may look a bit silly in print, but if
you say out loud expressively, with a gesture of your fist, it's
maybe not unreasonable.
Dan
(And thanks, Miguel and David, for ideas on 'varda' ---> 'gul')