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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> On Thu, 01 May 2003 22:39:32 +0000, Abdullah Konushevci
> <a_konushevci@...> wrote:
>
> >Yes, but *ab-, as Celtic proves it, is just, I guess, a voiced
> >variant form.
>
> With voicing caused by the suffix *-Hon-, which is absent from
avull.
> PIE *p, or in fact any PIE voiceless stop, just does not become
voiced
> in Albanian, except after nasal (nëndë "9" < *neun-ti).
>
>
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> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...
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ENTRY: euh1-
DEFINITION: To leave, abandon, give out, whence nominal derivatives
meaning abandoned, lacking, empty. Oldest form *h1euh2-, zero-grade *
h1uh2-, with variant form *h1weh2-, colored and contracted to *wa:-.
1. Suffixed form *wh-no-. a. wane; wanton, from Old English wanian,
to lessen (from Germanic *wane:n), and wan-, without; b. want, from
Old Norse vanta, to lack, from North Germanic *wanat n. 2. Suffixed
form *wa: -no-. vain, vanity, vaunt; evanesce, vanish, from Latin
va:nus, empty. 3. Extended form *wak-. vacant, vacate, vacation,
vacuity, vacuum, void; avoid, devoid, evacuate, from Latin vaca:re
(variant voca:re), to be empty. 4. Extended and suffixed form *was-to-
. waste; devastate, from Latin va:stus, empty, waste. (Watkins euh1-,
Pokorny 1. eu- 345.)
As You could see, in no variant, this PIE root has nothing to do with
<steam> or <vapour>, neither in other languages derives such meanings.
For that reason, didn't You appreciate it a little bit unexepted.
With PIE root *ap- 'water' and its voiced variants in Celtic and
Persian, *ab- I thing that it fits better.
Nevertheless, You are right that unvoiced stops in Albanian become
voiced only after nasals: pasi/mbasi 'after, when',
prapa/mbrapa 'behind', etc.
Konushevci