From: alex_lycos
Message: 20965
Date: 2003-04-12
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From: "Abdullah Konushevci" <a_konushevci@...>
Do You not accept that consonant cluslter st- is not developet in
sht-, or do You suggest that stër- is derived from italian stra-, as
Dalmatian, Romanian, or what else
I know that in Persion we have çaher, mostly reduced in compound to
çar (cf. çardak, çarsu, Çarabme, besides Perembe in Turkish, etc.)
It may be also Alb. intesiv prefix s- to the root tër- (cf.
tërmek/em `to be nettled, to be annoyed', tërplote "1/4, vierteil',
etc.)
Konushevci
It is not clear to me why it is assumed the Romanian "strã-" should be
from Latin "extra-".
Let us take a look:
ex-, exacum, exagium, examen, examussim, exanclo, exbolus, exbromo,
exbures, excanto, excello, excetra, excidio, excludo, excorticatura,
excrementum, exemplum, exentero, exfafillatus, exfir, exfuti, exiguus,
exillis, exilium, exim, exolesco, expedio, expergiscor, experior,
expilo, explodo, exploro, expretus, exsterno, ex(s)ul, exta, extemplo,
exterus, extorris, extrinsecus, exuo.
No one of these words has given anything in Rom. Lang.
The only one "excrementum" should have given " to strain himsel" since
the romanian word is "screme".
In this case, which are the reasons to think that the particle "strã-"
with the sense of "ancient", like in Germanic "ur-" should derive from
Latin "extra-"?
I see some other corespondences here, for instance latin "excetra"
having the same meaning with Romanian "cutra". But the Romanian "cutra"
is given as coming from Bulgar "kutra". Is this a Slavic word? Is this a
proto-bulgar word?
Well, I just wonder, is not a a bit forced this appropiation of Rom.
"strã-" to Latin "extra-"?