Re: Alb. Perëndi

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 20841
Date: 2003-04-07

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
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> From: "Abdullah Konushevci" <a_konushevci@...>
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> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 4:18 PM
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> > To this equation Perkunas - Perun was putted also Albanian
Perendi 'god', even I have expressed my reservation, because I see
in Albanian word an old adjective formed from PIE *per- `to lead'
and adjective suffix *-ent.
>
> I share your scepticism. The *e of pre-Albanian *per- would have
been either diphthongised or reduced in Albanian (depending on the
original stress pattern). The /e/ of <perëndi> must be of other
origin, which however excludes not only a connection with Perkunas
but *per-ent- as well, at least with the e-grade of the root. The
final <-ëndi>, on the other hand, does look as if it reflected
participial *-ent-/*-ont- (plus *-ijos).
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> It remains to identify the underlying verb. A form corresponding
to the Germanic causative *fo:r-j-an- 'lead, carry' (< *po:r-(e)je-,
cf. Mod.Ger. führen) with a lengthened o-grade would do. Cf. Skt.
pa:rayati 'bring over, preserve, keep alive, bring to an end', which
matches the semantics of Albanian <perëndoj> 'set, decline' and
<perëndim> 'west'. So I'd like to propose *po:rejont- (with the
approximate meaning 'leading through, accomplishing') > *perjand- >
perënd-i.
>
> Piotr
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Your phonetical reconstruction fits much well Alb. perendi 'god'.
But, perendi 'god'(cf. adj. i lirë 'free', but lir-i 'freedom', adj.
i dashur from part. dashur 'loved', but dashur-i 'love')
perëndoj 'to set', perëndim 'west' (ë is as a result of the
translocation of the accent in last syllabe), are all new derivates
of the same stem perend- < *per- or, much exactly, as You propose
from an lengthened o grade, + -ent/-ont as an old particip of the
verb *per- 'to lead'. The same construction we have to Alb. verb
vë/ve 'to place, tu put' and vend < ve- + -ent 'place'.
I am afraid that in these two cases we have to deal with very
archaic words, created by preserving an old formation of PIE
participle on -ent/-ont.