Re: slavic "dalto"

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 20770
Date: 2003-04-04

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
>
> --- Abdullah Konushevci <akonushevci@...>
> wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
> > <piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Abdullah Konushevci" <akonushevci@...>
> > > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:56 PM
> > > Subject: [tied] Re: slavic "dalto"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Until gdhe is prefixed form ga- + PIE root *da-
> > 'to devide'(cf.
> > Alb. gdhij 'to wake up' and Alb. di-të 'day' from
> > PIE zero grade
> > form *dyu- or z- + ga- + fellë 'cave' from i
> > thellë/i fellë 'deep',
> > zgavër 'hole' from z- +ga- + vër>vrimë/birë 'small
> > hole'), and
> > gdhend from PIE *ga- + *da- + -ent, why couldn't
> > Alb. dal-të be from
> > PIE *dail- 'to divede', but must be a Slavic loan.
> > >
> > > There's a difference of quality between saying
> > that *dolb-to
> > derives from *delb-/*dolb-/*dIlb-, a know Slavic
> > root with numerous
> > derivatives, the right semantics and securely
> > established external
> > cognates (including a Baltic set), and saying that
> > <dal-të> may be
> > related to PIE *da(h2)- and *dail-. The latter
> > "root" is a
> > questionable reconstruction in the first place (and
> > as for "why
> > not?", the last time I checked the Albanian reflex
> > of *ai was /e/);
> > the former is so short (and therefore so vulnerable
> > to arbitrary
> > manipulation) that without a strong argument showing
> > and explaining
> > the specific details of the derivation you won't
> > make a convincing
> > case.
> > >
> > > The hypothesis that <daltë> is a Slavic loan is
> > not a necessity or
> > an article of faith; it simply gives us a better fit
> > with the known
> > data than any other explanation offered so far.
> > >
> > > Piotr
> >
> > I am very curious to know the words or examples
> > where reflex of *ai
> > was /e/ in Albanian inherited lexikon. As far as I
> > am aware, exept
> > the word petk < *baita and some of mine etymologies
> > (edh, ethe, eth,
> > river name Erenik).
> > I will be very grateful to you, if you could give
> > much more examples.
> >
> > Abdullah
>
> ******GK: Abdullu dovbneju ne dobyty... (:=)))*****
> >
> > ************
Another word with PIE *da-: z- + gër- + dh- +-ihem 'to grin', gër- +
dh- + -ajë 'peelings of fruit' and... and... HUTI NË ZGUR!!! (:=)))))
> Jus for Mr. Kurrkysh
>
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