From: george knysh
Message: 20763
Date: 2003-04-04
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski******GK: Abdullu dovbneju ne dobyty... (:=)))*****
> <piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Abdullah Konushevci" <akonushevci@...>
> > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:56 PM
> > Subject: [tied] Re: slavic "dalto"
> >
> >
> >
> > > Until gdhe is prefixed form ga- + PIE root *da-
> 'to devide'(cf.
> Alb. gdhij 'to wake up' and Alb. di-t� 'day' from
> PIE zero grade
> form *dyu- or z- + ga- + fell� 'cave' from i
> thell�/i fell� 'deep',
> zgav�r 'hole' from z- +ga- + v�r>vrim�/bir� 'small
> hole'), and
> gdhend from PIE *ga- + *da- + -ent, why couldn't
> Alb. dal-t� be from
> PIE *dail- 'to divede', but must be a Slavic loan.
> >
> > There's a difference of quality between saying
> that *dolb-to
> derives from *delb-/*dolb-/*dIlb-, a know Slavic
> root with numerous
> derivatives, the right semantics and securely
> established external
> cognates (including a Baltic set), and saying that
> <dal-t�> may be
> related to PIE *da(h2)- and *dail-. The latter
> "root" is a
> questionable reconstruction in the first place (and
> as for "why
> not?", the last time I checked the Albanian reflex
> of *ai was /e/);
> the former is so short (and therefore so vulnerable
> to arbitrary
> manipulation) that without a strong argument showing
> and explaining
> the specific details of the derivation you won't
> make a convincing
> case.
> >
> > The hypothesis that <dalt�> is a Slavic loan is
> not a necessity or
> an article of faith; it simply gives us a better fit
> with the known
> data than any other explanation offered so far.
> >
> > Piotr
>
> I am very curious to know the words or examples
> where reflex of *ai
> was /e/ in Albanian inherited lexikon. As far as I
> am aware, exept
> the word petk < *baita and some of mine etymologies
> (edh, ethe, eth,
> river name Erenik).
> I will be very grateful to you, if you could give
> much more examples.
>
> Abdullah
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