Re: slavic "dalto"

According to you and others in the list, Albanians may have they
words gdhe 'gral, knot' (it has also very cruel figurative
meaning 'stupid') and also gdhend 'to rough-polish, to carve' (it
has also figurative meaning 'to emancipate'), but they waiting
another people to get their word for tool - dalta 'chisel'.
Albanian has also many derivates of this name: daltoj,
daltues,daltim, but their are linguisticley irrelevant.

Sergei
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--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Sergejus Tarasovas"
<S.Tarasovas@...> wrote:

> > As everyone could understands, we have here to do with pure

Slavic

> > loans from (proto-)Albanian, becouse, as we see, these words in
> > Slavic are orphans.
> > For me, this issue is closed.
> >
>
> I don't see your point. Proto-Slavic *dolbto (along with *(na)

dolbU and

> other deverbals) is an impeccable (as to the sound change and

derivation

> models in charge) derivative of the root found in *delbti ~

*dolbati ~

> *dIlbati ~ *dIlbiti 'peck, chisel' (< *dHelbH- ~ *dHolbH~ *dHlbH-

), so

> it's not an orphan; it's also an impeccable direct cognate of

OPruss.

> <dalptan> 'chisel' (both < BSl. *dalbta(n)). The reflexes of these
> Proto-Slavic verbs themselves are galore in present-day Slavic

languages

> and they still mean 'peck, chisel, hole, hammer' (there are also

some

> metaphoric meanings, eg, in Russian <zadolbál> is what you have

done to

> me, and probably to some other members on the list by sticking on

your

> story).
>
> These verbs are by no means orphans: they have Baltic brothers

(eg.,

> Lithuanian <del~bti> *'batter down, drive down' > 'look down, throw
> one's eyes to the ground', <délba> 'shaft of a hayfork; pole (esp.

used

> to drive something in or down)'), from whence one can conclude

they have

> parents as well.
>
> Do you mean the Slavic verbs and their Baltic cognates are 'pure

loans

> from (Proto-)Albanian'? What are the (Proto-)Albanian sources for

the

> borrowings?
>
> Sergei