Re: Macedonian x Greek

Concerning Albanian qaj<klanj 'to cry, to weep' I din't take care
about the meaning of the verb clamare in Latin and its derivates in
Rom., so I am doubtfull about it. Sorry, cause I was concentrated
only in phonetic form, as an bad cybalist.
Konushevci

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex_lycos" <altamix@...> wrote:
> Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
> >
> > ************
> > About Rom. ceafa 'neck, occiput' Meyer had thinking that is an
> > Albanian loanword (EWAS, p.219). There are opinions that it
could be
> > borrowed from Turkish kafa 'occipud, head' (Huld, 106) and so on
> > To my view, the most reasonable explanation was given by Hamp
> > *kepHa, to Lat. caput 'head', because the substitution Alb. q- <
PIE
> > *k- is regular and normal in Albanian. It could be derived also
only
> > from cluster kl- (cf. i qartë < Lat. clarus, qaj 'to cry, to
weep' <
> > Lat. clamare)
> > If the Rom. word ceafa is borrowed one, then it preserves much
> > oldest form
> >
> > Konushevci
>
> 1)I have a problem with Latin "ca<put" since here is an "e" and
not an
> "a". Question: why should Latin change an PIE "e" to "a"?
>
> 2)Wait a bit. I have a litle trouble here. What is with this funny
> semnatic changes here overall in the East of Europe?
> Latin "clamare"= to aclame should have given in Rom. "chema"= to
call,
> in albanian should have given "to cry"? Is there " to cry" or
to "to
> yell" too?
> Latin "clarus" = clear, should have given in Rom. chiar= "even"
and in
> Albanian " clear" ? And it seems all derivatives in Alb. have the
root
> "qart" like qartë, qartazi, qartas
> Then what about the another one sense, qartë= quarrel; row,
wrangle;
> squabble whic is in romanian "a certa"?
> a propos " to cry" there is "vajton" which is in Rom. "vãita" and
in
> Germanic "weh & weinen", avestan "vayoi", Latin "vae".
> The rom. word "vãita" should come from "vai" which is _not_ given
as
> from Latin "vae" but to be seen comparative with Latin "vae".
>
> Alex