[tied] Re: Germanic Scythians?

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

>
> --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> The standard explanation
> > is that the
> > authors had confused Bosporus with the Cimmerian
> > Bosporus.
>
> ******GK: Explain yourself more fully.******

Those that comment Snorri and Saxo (who also places the "Odin the
man" in Byzantium) when trying to explain how these sources are using
each other's material assume (just one theory) that when the authors
place "Odin" there, their source may have contained a reference
to "Bosporus" in the sense of "Cimmerian Bosporus", which the authors
have then misunderstood as referring to the "real" Bosporus.

> >
> > But as regards the "north, then west" direction, cf
> > this abstract
> > from "Hunibald":
> >
> > "
> > 2. Marcomirus I: king of the 28
> > 444- 416
> > Sicambri (from the German
> > Cimbri in whose ancient
> > territory they settled).
> > In 441 he brought the people
> > out of Scythia and seated
> > them on the Danube. During
> > a council he was told by a
> > pagan priest to go west where
> > Brutus of Troy had previously
> > gone. A pagan prophecy
> > promises him victory over the
> > Gauls and the Romans. Sends
> > embassy to Saxons and asks
> > for land in which to settle.
> > In April 439 B.C. they leave
> > the lower Danube and move
> > overland, first north, then
> > west, to the mouth of the
> > Rhine. A total of 489,360
> > persons (including 175,658
> > warriors but not including
> > slaves and servants) take
> > part.
>
> ******GK: What do these incredible stupidities have to
> do with historical science?******
>

The issue was where the "north, then west" came from in Snorri. He
and Trittenheim might have used similar sources.

Torsten