From: ehlsmith
Message: 20185
Date: 2003-03-22
> NED SMITH WROTE:purporting to
> <<...there was an article published within the last year or two
> find amaximum
> strong correlation between tropical horticultural societies and
> language diversity. The author(s?)put forth the hypothesis thatthis was a
> casual relationship, based on the following mechanism- ahorticultural
> society in a tropical environment wouldsince there
> have less need for maintaining contact with neighboring groups,
> would tend to be much less fluctuation in their food sources thanthose of
> foragers, pastoralists or non-tropical farmers.maintain some
>
> ...it is not just lack of markets, but also lack of the need to
> sort of ties over a sufficiently large enough area to conteractlocal
> fluctuations in food supply.>>anthropologists
>
> I think this is also an old point-of-view. 19th Century
> often portrayed "primitive" cultures as being either complacent(i.e., in
> paradise) or unmotivated (i.e., lazy) and therefore prone toisolation. But
> what seems to be a key factor is that these cultures do not buildup any kind
> of surplus in food, materials or secondary products. They do infact have
> contact (e.g., there is ritualized war among Amazonian tribes) butdo not
> trade because there is no surplus to trade, no food preservationand nothing
> above subsistence manufacturing.surpluses or
>
> Markets and the exchange of surplus food and materials for other
> for mesolithic resources (e.g., furs and hides, lumber, plantmaterials, or
> even surface metals, etc.) necessitate communication. Sometimesthis results
> in pidgins, creoles or contact languages. Sometimes it createsbilingualism
> or even wholescale conversion to another language.without
>
> The basic premise of the article you mention in any case is that
> economic motivation, cultures will isolate. A slightly differentpoint of
> view says that humans have a tendency to be basically consumers andwill look
> to spend their surplus on something new-fangled that they can'tfind at home
> -- things like cows, goats, pigs, horses, grains, wheeled vehicles,etc.
> Only a lack of surplus will get in the way.Hi Steve,