From: tgpedersen
Message: 20112
Date: 2003-03-20
>On the mix of Iazyges and native Germani
> --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> > > > GK: There is ample archaeological evidence
> > > > associating the southeastern spread of Germanic
> > > > dialects (including those of the Sciri and
> > Basternae)
> > > > with the southeastern expansion of the Jastorf
> > > > culture, beginning in the 3rd c. BC. This BTW
> > was made
> > > > possible by the near total collapse of classical
> > > > Scythia in the generations posterior to the
> > defeat of
> > > > Zopirion.
> > (T)At the hands of the Sarmatians, right?
>
> *****GK: If you mean Zopirion, then no. Zopirion was
> Alexander's general in Thrace. In 331 BC he attempted
> to conquer Olbia. His army (numbering 30,000+) was
> completely annihilated by the Scythians.== If you mean
> the Scythians, then yes. The last significant "royal"
> tomb of classical Scythia was recently excavated by a
> consortium of Polish and Ukrainian archaeologists. It
> is located fairly close to Kyiv, and dated ca. 275-->
> BC. In the period 275-225 BC the Sarmatians (Iazygi
> and Roxolani)wiped out most of the Scythians of
> Eastern Ukraine, while most of those who resided in
> Western Ukraine (led by the Auchata/Aratores) migrated
> to the Dobrudja, founding one of the two Scythian
> successor kingdoms known (acc. to Strabo) as Little
> Scythia. Since these migrants were preponderantly
> Thrakoid-speakers, their integration into the local
> population south of the Danube was rather swift. And
> lest I forget, there was also a migrant group which
> sought (and received) asylum from King Ptolemy. They
> founded Scythopolis near the Jordan r.******
>
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