Re: [tied] Re: Germanic Scythians?

From: george knysh
Message: 20083
Date: 2003-03-19

--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> > > GK: There is ample archaeological evidence
> > > associating the southeastern spread of Germanic
> > > dialects (including those of the Sciri and
> Basternae)
> > > with the southeastern expansion of the Jastorf
> > > culture, beginning in the 3rd c. BC. This BTW
> was made
> > > possible by the near total collapse of classical
> > > Scythia in the generations posterior to the
> defeat of
> > > Zopirion.
> (T)At the hands of the Sarmatians, right?

*****GK: If you mean Zopirion, then no. Zopirion was
Alexander's general in Thrace. In 331 BC he attempted
to conquer Olbia. His army (numbering 30,000+) was
completely annihilated by the Scythians.== If you mean
the Scythians, then yes. The last significant "royal"
tomb of classical Scythia was recently excavated by a
consortium of Polish and Ukrainian archaeologists. It
is located fairly close to Kyiv, and dated ca. 275-->
BC. In the period 275-225 BC the Sarmatians (Iazygi
and Roxolani)wiped out most of the Scythians of
Eastern Ukraine, while most of those who resided in
Western Ukraine (led by the Auchata/Aratores) migrated
to the Dobrudja, founding one of the two Scythian
successor kingdoms known (acc. to Strabo) as Little
Scythia. Since these migrants were preponderantly
Thrakoid-speakers, their integration into the local
population south of the Danube was rather swift. And
lest I forget, there was also a migrant group which
sought (and received) asylum from King Ptolemy. They
founded Scythopolis near the Jordan r.******


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