Re: [tied] Re: Mallory's New PIE Homeland?

Torsten, you wrote:

On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:21:45 -0000 "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
writes:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Michael J Smith <lookwhoscross-
> eyednow@...> wrote:
> > Torsten, you wrote:
> >
> > > I thought it was established that p-Celtic arrived late? If q-
> Celtic
> > >
> > > arrived early, and p-Celtic late, why are they then so closely
> > > related?
> >
> > Torsten, I don't know of any evidence of Q-Celtic being spoken
> in
> > Britain (although of course in Ireland).
> Scotch Gaelic.

Scotch Gaelic arrived later on, from Ireland, and so is irrelavent.

>
> >Couldn't P-Celtic speakers been
> > the first Celtic speakers in Britain (although there's know way to
>
> know)?
>
> How would Q-celtic speakers end up in the far end then?

Toresten, you are assuming that the Celtic-speakers who settled in
Ireland HAD to have passed through Britain before reaching Ireland. They
could have settled Ireland directly from the continent, maybe from Spain.

>
> > It cannot be established that P-Celtic arrived late, because you
> can't
> > equate a language with material remains.
> Some would disagree.

Toresten, speakers of any language can adopt material elements
associated with a particular culture. For example, I'm sure you've heard
"language doesn't =pottery".

>
> >Of course P-Celts could have
> > arrived very early.
> Evidence?

I don't think
there's evidence that they arrive very early, or relatvely late, because
of what I said above, so either are possibilities, I was just saying that
it was certainly possible that they arrived at a very early date.

> > -Michael
> >
> Torsten
>
>
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