Re: Umbric

From: Daniel J. Milton
Message: 20048
Date: 2003-03-18

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex_lycos" <altamix@...> wrote:
> does anyone knows which is the etomology of "umbri" ?
> There is no direct evidence they have been thracians but the name
is to
> find in thracian long time before Rome and of course, later in
Umbria.
> SO far I am informed, there is no conection between "umbra"
and "Umbria"
>
> Alex

Giacomo Devoto's "The Languages of Italy" (English translation
1978) Ch. 6 has "Umbrian .... it it not essential to our purpose to
insist on the original Mediterranean root of the name". An earlier
chapter is on the pre-I.-E. "Mediterranean" substrate in Italy, so I
read this as meaning he thinks "Umbrian" is a pre-I.-E. name. His
footnote is to Devoto "Scritti minori" 2:217ff (Florence, 1967), if
that happens to be on your shelf. It's not on mine.
What are your Thracian "Umbrians?"