Re: [tied] Veneti

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 20044
Date: 2003-03-18

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> Piotr, what are "cladistic relationships"?
> -Michael

An interdisciplinary metaphor. In biology, a clade is a historically self-contained entity consisting of an ancestral species plus _all_ its descendants (and of nothing else). A cladistic classification is one in which all taxa are valid clades, and in particular the following kind of taxa are disallowed:

paraphyletic (not containing all the descendants of the common ancestor);

polyphyletic (not containing the most recent common ancestor of all their members).

If we use the same principles in the genetic classification of languages, then e.g. IE is a valid clade since it contains PIE and doesn't exclude any of its descendants. So is Germanic, since it includes PGmc. and all its offspring. But "Italo-Celtic" may not be a clade, since it hasn't been demonstrated that there existed a common ancestor whose only descendants are Italic and Celtic.

Piotr