Re: [tied] Lusitanians

Some of the traits of Lusitanian could have influenced Portuguese?
Examples of some curious traits in Portuguese development from Latin:
1) -l- > zero cf. pala(m) > pá "shovel"; mala(m),malu(m) > má, mau "bad"
2) -n- > nasalization or zero, cf. leone(m) > lea~o; linu(m) > linho;
vena(m) > veia
3) transformation of all L-clusters. (cl, pl, etc) into palatals or
R-clusters.
4) nasal diphthongs: a~o /a~w/; o~e /o~y/; a~e /a~y/

Joao SL

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> > Thanks, that was helpful. Regarding the Lusitanians, it is
possible then that they were Indo-Europeans, not speaking an Iberian
dialect?
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> That's what I said. An Indo-European group (and therefore not "Iberian"),
although probably non-Celtic.
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> > Are Indo-European as well as native non-Indo-European (Iberian or
Tartessian?) elements attested among the Lusitanians? Besides this, are any
possible non-Celtic Indo-European elements seen any where else in the
Iberian Peninsula besides among the Lusitanians?
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> Perhaps a careful study of IE loans in Basque could reveal something new
(if some of them prove to be pre-Celtic). As for Lusitanian, the evidence is
too fragmentary to enable any credible conclusions.
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> > I know that there's the name of Arganthonios, the king of Tartessos, but
that's usually seen as being Celtic, containing the root word for silver,
but could it have been a non-Celtic Indo-European name as well?
(Lusitanian?)
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> Who can tell? :-(
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> Piotr
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