Re: [tied] More nonsense: Is English /d/ truely voiced?

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 19091
Date: 2003-02-23

Piotr:
>In mainstream Canadian English <writer> and <rider> the distinction
>is realised as a difference in the quality of the diphthongs, while
>the underlying /t/ and /d/ are both realised as [D] (= voiced alveolar
>tap): ['r&IDr.] vs. [raIDr.], [&I] being the allophone
>normally used before fortis ["voiceless"] consonants. Similarly
><pouter> is [p&UDr.] while <powder> is [paUDr.].

Hmm, I'm not sure whether I'm saying [&I] or not. I'm gonna
think on that.

My partner, being I think a little unproud of his originally
Newfie accent, happens to enunciate a difference between "writer"
and "rider" by pronouncing -t- as an aspirated flap. It's
annoying as hell at times but I love him anyways.


- gLeN


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