Help with ban_Banat

From: S & L
Message: 18991
Date: 2003-02-21

From Peter Dobrev’s ”Ezikyt na Asparukhovite i Kuberovi bylgari, Rechnik i
Gramatika”, Sofia, 1995 found at
http://members.tripod.com/~Groznijat/b_lang/bl_oldwords.html as "The
language of the Asparukh and Kuber Bulgars, vocabulary and grammar" by Peter
Dobrev; An abridged translation.
Words, preserved in the historical and archaeological monuments from the
VI-X cc. AD.

Old Bulgar word: BAN – a military deputy of a region
Closest analogies: BAN – a military commander (Eastern Caucasian); from
“BO” – an army (Eastern Caucasian)
Old Bulgar word: ZOAPAN – a court title
Closest analogies: Zhoopan – an official (Eastern Caucasian); Chupan
(Sogdian) from fsu-pana (Sanskrit)

Slavic groups began settling the Balkan Peninsula beginning in the VI
century AD.
None of the Slavic groups did not have anything like a state at this stage,
but they developed several small tribal territories, each called a ZUPA and
ruled by a tribal chief known as the ZUPAN.
This simple organization was very probably drawn from the civil organization
of the Sclavonic tribes. Among these the patriarch, who was the father and
ruler of a numerous household, became, as his influence widened, by the
voluntary selection of his equals, the ZUPAN, or elder, of a commune, and
one of these zupans, by the choice of his fellow-zupans, became the GRAND
ZUPAN, or elder, of his tribe or province, with the chance of being called
to the still higher station of BAN or CZAR.
The Bosnians/Bosniacs begun to call their Grand ZUPANs as BAN as early as
the beginning of the X century. They where not the only one because in a
letter of Pope John X (914-‘29) to the Croatian ruler Tomislav the term of
BAN is used also.
As far as I know [in this moment], the serb’s did not use this term of BAN
in their incipient state organization.

Online Etymology Dictionary at http://www.etymonline.com/index.html
BAN (verb) –Old English BANNAN "to summon by proclamation", influenced by
Old Norse BANNA "curse, prohibit", both from Proto-Germanic BANNAN
"proclaim, COMMAND, forbid", from Proto-Indo-European base BHA- "to speak".
Sense evolved from "speak" to "proclaim a threat" to "curse". The
"proclamation" sense survives in BANNS of marriage (1549).

S o r i n


alex_lycos <altamix@...> wrote:
...
Just a question. "Ban" is not a panslavic word. It is known just in
bulgarian and serbo-croatian.
Which is the meaning , the actually meaning of "ban" there?
...