Re: [tied] Tolkien and Germanic astronomy

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 18865
Date: 2003-02-18

Yes, that's what I've been thinking. (Please ignore my "empty reply" posted accidentally a minute ago.)

Piotr

P.S. OHG orentil is the regular counterpart of <e:arendel>, no reason to doubt the relationship. -- P.

P.P.S. No historical connection with "orient", before anyone asks :-). There might have been a secondary folk-etymological association, though, since Cynewulf's <eala earendel> more or less translates <O oriens> of parallel Latin meditations.

Piotr




----- Original Message -----
From: "João Simões Lopes Filho" <jodan99@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Tolkien and Germanic astronomy


ON Aurvandill / OE earendel / OHG orentil (-doubt-) seems to be similarities to Greek Eosphoros and Latin Lucifer (replacing older*Aurifer?). So, can we see the PIE name for morning Venus something like "Dawn-bringer", "Dawn-wanderer", "Dawn-messenger" or something like ?