Re: [tied] Tolkien and Germanic astronomy

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 18857
Date: 2003-02-17

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From: "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>
To: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Tolkien and Germanic astronomy


> De Vries, Altnordisches Etymologisches Wörterbuch, notes a Langobard personal name <Auriwandalo>, though the deuterotheme here might be more directly associated with the Vandals. He also notes the OHG hero name <Orentil>, which looks like essentially the same development.


Yes. The Langobardic name occurs in an eighth-century legal document (a "charta dotis"), signed by several witnesses. Among the signatures we fing "signum + manus Auriuuandali". Further down the page, there's another similar name, <Auripert> (*aur&-berht-), etymologisable as 'dawn-bright'. I've seen it argued somewhere that the Langobardic forms falsify the theory of a connection with the 'dawn' etymon, but I fail to see why. Pace some popular classifications, Langobardic was a dialect with West Germanic features, complete with rhotacised *z's, as the name immediately following Auriwald's in the very same document demonstrates: it is <Gairipald> (*gair&-bald- < *gaiza-bald-).

Piotr