Re: [tied] Lupus

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 18722
Date: 2003-02-11

Taboo?

Analogously to lupus, Romans also borrow bo:s (ox) instead of *vo:s.
Or could be a much older borrow, in Proto-Italic times ? Maybe Proto-Italic
*gWo:us and *wLkWos became *bo:us and *wLpos ou *lupos.
*wLpos must give *lulpu in Umbrian (*lulpu > *lu:pu ?)

ps: I remember that Sabinian had *hirpus meaning wolf (cf. Hirpini). 1)
Hirpus < * wLkWos; 2) Hirpus < *g^Hers(i)kWos, cf. hircus, hirtus, hirsutus

Joao SL
Rio
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--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "m_iacomi <mailto:m_iacomi@..."
<m_iacomi@...> wrote:
> In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, João Simões Lopes Filho wrote:
> > There are roots *wLkWos, *wLp- *l(o)up-. Perhaps corrupted forms
> > of the same, or maybe different roots mingled later.
> > The usual explanation for Latin lupus and Greek lykos is
> > metathesis (*wLkWo- > *lukWo-), but I suspect some dialetal
> > influence.
>
> At least for Latin lupus, the most usual explanation I've seen
> is that the word was borrowed in Latin from some Oscan-Umbrian
> dialect (in which concerns the /p/). The expected form in Latin
> would have been *luqu- or *luc-.
>
> Regards,
> Marius Iacomi

But why would the Rmoans borrow a word for something that's so
important in their ethnogenesis myth?

Torsten





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