Re: [tied] Lupus

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 18677
Date: 2003-02-10

There are roots *wLkWos, *wLp- *l(o)up-. Perhaps corrupted forms of the same, or maybe different roots mingled later.
The usual explanation for  Latin lupus and Greek lykos is metathesis (*wLkWo- > *lukWo-), but I suspect some dialetal influence. The "normal" greek form might be *(w)alpos, (w)lapos. There's a giant called Alpos (killed by Dionysos) and the people Lapithai (< Lapo-pith- < *wLkWo-bHidH- "ugly like a wolf" ???)
 
Joao SL
Rio
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From: Che
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Isn't eng. wolf rather related to lat. vulpes "fox"? Then isn't it actually kind of "wild dog"? And do we have here two developments from the same root 1. vulpes 2. (w)lupus?
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Subject: [tied] Lupus


> Why is Latin lupus 'wolf' lupus rather than +vulpus?  Is there a rule
> l.kW > lukW parallel to the development of Greek lukos from PIE
> *wl.kWos?  I presume similar arguments apply whether you accept PIE
> *wl.kWos or elaborate PIE to have wl.pWos to neatly account for
> Germanic *wulfaz.  (There appears a 'lesser wild dog' root with
> consonants wlp - see
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/14885 for a list.)

Sporadic metathesis of *wR. > Ru has to be assumed in some cases. Cf. *kW(e)tru- < *kW(e)twr.- (Lat. quadru-, Gaul. petru-, Av. c^atrus^ 'four times').

Piotr


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