Re: [tied] to yelp

Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:

> Cognate to what?! They are each of different origin! Ger. kläffen
> might, at least in theory, be an ablaut variant of the now obsolete
> English verb <clepe> (OE clipian ~ cleopian 'call'), but not of
> <yelp>, which has its own set of continental cognates (e.g. MHG galf
> 'outcry, barking'). The Romanian word, if not an independent
> onomatopoeia (the cluster /kl-/ has a phonaesthetic value in several
> European languages) may be a wandering loan from German
> (incidentally, Rom. klopot 'bell' comes from Slavic). Alb. leh can't
> be related to any of the above by any stretch of the imagination. If
> etymologised as *la:-ske-, it _could_ be relater to Slavic *lajati
> 'bark', though one's always got to be careful with potentially
> expressive words
>
> Piotr

I was thinking in the germanic plan of "g" where "g" = "k" beeing eassy
to confound ( there are many english words with an "y" from an PGmC
"g" )
Somewhere I seen more such relationship where in albanian the "k" was
lost, but for instance in "to have" the "k" is in a initially position.
Rom "am" (I have) versus albanian "kam". I have to check for some
albanian wors where initial consonant is lost.
My dictionary gives the germanic "kläffen" as " hard to connect" and
there is no PIE root where from it could derive, just maybe a connection
with " to clap" = germanic klappen, too without a PIE root. "Ursprung
liegt im Dunkel."
The germanic "k" shouldnt be an originaly there since normally the sound
should be an "h" if there is a PIE root, less if the groups "kl" went
not "hl". But I am not aware of an "hl" in german, but "kl" likeklingen,
klinken, kleben ( see slavic "lepati"(?), rom. "lipi") and so on.
It can be they are not related to each other.

Alex