From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 18370
Date: 2003-02-01
>Excuse me Miguel, where should the "e" after palatal not be pronounced?In (standard) Romanian. Bourciez $460.3: "Derrière une palatale l'e
>In PRB or where?
>Actually the sound is an "e" in the diphthong "ea".In general yes, but not after the palatal sounds (/s^/, /z^/, /c^/,
>And in which dialect should be "sãdzatã" for "sãgeatã"? I am not awareYes: /dZ/, actually. I sometimes slip back into ASCII-IPA /S/, /Z/
>of it but you got me curious. Or maybe /dz/ here is just the way to write
>for affricated /g/ like in "joke"?
>Normally the /e/ how you said in the previous rules, diphtongued toPay attention. The chain of transformations was /se/ > /sE/ > /sie/ >
>"ie". The "i" from /ie/ became a part of the consonant before it , so
>/t/+/i/=/ts/, /s/+/i/= S and there should have remained the /e/ in the
>word , it was not elided or "mute".
>Now it seems that this "e" which remained "free" from /ie/ diphtongued
>once again to "ea" and monophtongued once again to "a".
>So the chain transformations for vocalism of Latin "septem" are
>/e/>/ie/>/e/>/ea/>/a/ for giving Rom. "Sapte".
>Interesting should be in the actual language that from an /a/ you canThe breaking of (i)e to (i)ea occurs only when the vowel is stressed
>get an /e/ when deriving: Sapte but înSepti= to make it seven times
>more.
>But how you showed these rules should work and there should beBefore doing so, you should have checked for the exact conditions.
>more examples for /e/ which became an /a/ after s,d,t,k,g having now the
>form /Sa/, /Za/, /Tsa/, /tSa/,/Ga/. We can try to find some with this
>form at the begin of the word.