Re: [tied] Fw: Sorok i devianosto

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> From: george knysh [mailto:gknysh@...]
> Subject: RE: [tied] Fw: Sorok i devianosto
>
> *****GK: Is the term known in South Slavic (esp.
> Bulg.)recensions of CS?

Yes. Reel Old Church Slavonic (not a "recension" yet!) _srac^ica_ is
found in Codex Suprasliensis and Codex Marianus.

> BTW ,as an aside, does "sraka"
> (today) mean the same in Russian as it does in
> Ukrainian?[viz., "ass", not the animal] (:=))*****

Yes, but it's not related to *sork- 'shirt', being derived from deverbal
*sIr-a-k-a, from *sIr-a-ti 'defecate'. CS -ra- of _sraka_ 'garment' is a
regular reflex of Proto-Slavic *-or- in that environment (between two
consonants).

> Zero evidence for the meaning
> > 'sack'. But doesn't a
> > primitive (sleeveless) shirt/dress look like a sack
> > with a hole for the
> > head, after all? ;-)
>
> ****GK: I thought of that too. But all this depends on
> the existence of *sork doesn't it?*****

*sork- definitely existed, at least as a borrowing from Germanic (or do
you mean it was borrowed independently into Old Macedonian/Bulgarian,
Slovene and Old Russian?). It's the meaning 'sack' that's problematic.

> > Considering the Old Church Slavomic and Slovenian
> > evidence, one should
> > posit a loan from (Proto-)Germanic into Proto-Slavic
> > to explain *sork-
> > as a borrowing.
>
> *****GK: I'm not too sure about that. Anything else
> besides the Slovenian?*****

I am. Consider (South Slavic) OCS as well. I wonder whether our brethren
West Slavs can come up with anything?

Sergei