[tied] Re: Laryngeal Loss (was Does Koenraad Elst Meet Hock´s Chal

From: tgpedersen
Message: 17384
Date: 2003-01-04

> > In a message dated 1/3/03 4:53:58 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> > tgpedersen@... writes:
> >
> >
> > > > Not necessarily. Loss of laryngeals is a completely natural
process
> > > > which can happen, or not, with or without any external
motivation,
> > > and
> > > > at any time.
> >
> > I read so many times things like "this combination of sounds
changes
> > because it is hard to say," without any explanation as to how
such a
> > combination would arise in the first place. I can understand it
when it
> > comes with compound words, or with two words pronounced
consecutively, but
> > how about otherwise?
> >
> > David Fickett-Wilbar
>
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
> Most typically, vowel reduction and loss creates difficult
consonant clusters: trisyllabic CVCRVCV > C&CRVC& > monosyllabic
CCRVC, etc. One striking example is Polish, which developed from
Proto-Slavic, an open-syllable language with simple onsets, but now
admits some really monstrous clusters. Most other modern Slavic
languages are of the same phonotactic type.
>
> Piotr
>
>
Especially sports reporters in Denmark have decided that certain
Polish and otherwise consonant groups are very difficult to pronounce
and have decided that they can't really be serious and simplify those
clusters in the proper way. But not to worry: Mstislav and mgnovjenie
are no harder to pronounce than English /ptklli/.

Torsten